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Inventions we take for Granted

George and Burt Episode 11

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Top inventions in the last 50 years that have completely revolutionized our lives, most of which we take for granted.

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Welcome back to this American Ride Podcast where we talk about issues that affect you, the average American. What's up and welcome back to the podcast. I'm George. I'm here with Bert and we were just joking about how we were getting some of the wrinkle out of this podcast set up and well I'm working on it. Never ends. Never ends. Always something. Interesting stuff when you work with audio equipment but we're getting there. We're getting there. So we always do these early in the week too. You get them late in the week but we do them early in the week but for me this week it was a good weekend. Oh yeah. I got to tell you it was a good weekend. That's interesting. So we hung out. I had some family garbage to deal with but other than that the birds beat the cowboys. And anytime the birds beat the cowboys. That's solely what you're basing your weekend off of. That's a good weekend man. Really? Interesting. I'm not like it's a good time with a wife or something. Yeah. Now we have an old date night on Thursday. Thursday, Friday, Friday maybe. Yeah, Friday we put off a little date night. And yeah, it's anytime the birds beat the cowboys. I'm happy. Well I was able to roll into the weekend with it already good because my my Steelers one on Thursday night squeaked one. So well I mean we squeaked out five. I mean that's just what they do this year apparently. But no I had a good weekend too. Friday night we went out, hit up the old tarars. Love some tarars got the best front joining Super in the world and turned out to be karaoke night. Oh so we stuck around, had some drinks and watched people make fools themselves which was a good time. Right into one of our old high school classmates. You're running to Matt Johnson. Okay. And his wife so hung out there for a little while and then Saturday we went over to the moose to see Mr. Randy butters perform his magic show. Okay. Old friend of mine for my last job. Good guy. Funny guy he does magic. He's big into magic and he was put on a show over there to raise money for the moose and for kids. So figure we pop in and check it out. So got to see that and then ended up hanging out at the moose a lot longer than we thought we were going to have some drinks in my home and then yesterday kind of did some stuff around the house until we went out and took my parents out for an early dinner around four o'clock. Sorry. At the stake 38. So good weekend. Action pack but. Well all that time, all the time we were both going around doing all those activities and join our weekend and you know be in typical Americans taking a little stuff for granted. We were using things that we were going to talk about today. Oh that's a nice segue man. Well married nice. I rambled long enough for you to think about that. So we were talking about inventions of like the past 50 years that really impact our life today. Honestly, I think that they are inventions that we do kind of take for granted in a lot of ways and some of them are things that now we have an entire generation who have never lived without. Yeah. Well, they've all we take all these for granted I think well for the most part but not only that but just they changed the world completely. Oh completely. That will never like we'll never go back to the way it was before these inventions and it's kind of a big deal that you know as a huge effect on all of our day to day and yet we actually do at this point we've gotten so so comfortable with I think most of these that we definitely take them for granted. Oh huge. Huge. We're taking for granted. It's I mean I always joke you know people were to jump forward in time from like you know even the 70s you know but God forbid like the 20s or something like that and we're to see people walking on the street you know with these little earpieces on talking to themselves they would they would think everybody's crazy. I mean there's just no. Yeah. You know so so it's also it's also it's also funny though like because some of this is technology right and it's funny how this technology is created and then and you think it's going to be created and it's going to be better for everyone but then to see how humans are able to take this amazing technology and basically use it for like some worthless stuff like just really stupid stuff. I will we'll get it to it we talked about it but yeah. It's kind of we're just out of humans are weird. We are time wasteers. Yeah we are. And time sucks will be part of this whole thing but. So we're going to talk about I think we can put like five things and it's so tough to like to narrow down this list of items because there have been so many things that have been invented you know in the last 50 years kind of in our lifetime it was really kind of tough to narrow that down. And a lot of them are connected so many so one way or another they've kind of like built upon each other so it's kind of hard to like we might say we have five but I think as we talk about them we're probably going to end up mentioning a lot more than five. I can put it like I can put it like I agree. So I can put it like I agree. Starting off though where were we starting off we just we just going by this list that we have here. Well you can start off with that one that you liked. Which one did I like the DNA DNA DNA testing. DNA testing is I've written down here first used first used in a conviction in 1987 and it was used in England first before it was used here and then it was used in Florida as the first state to get this guy named Tommy Lee Andrews who broke into Wilman's home and raped her. So that was the first like application of solving a crime of DNA testing and I feel like this is one of those things where so many TV and crime shows are based upon the DNA that you know this isn't something that's that old. No. But I'm in DNA I mean I'm not like I'm not a science or anything like that but DNA I mean we think about it as being used so heavily in criminal cases and things like that but there's has a lot more. Yes. Applications and that right. So I mean in my field genetic testing genetic testing can you know can be early disease detection there are versions of heart disease where if somebody in the family comes down and is diagnosed with a certain type of heart disease we can go back and then do genetic which is essentially DNA testing to see if people have you know that gene in their strain to make them more susceptible you know to like say sudden cardiac death. The other thing is there are cancer markers now there's all slimmer markers now especially with women cancers there are you know markers in your in your genomes in your DNA to be able to detect how to have early detection of some of some of these cancers so that you can increase your screening. I mean that impact that impact to me is just like that's huge. So huge in the medical world it's a lot of people to you know the ancestry thing. It's definitely huge in that and people kind of finding out where they came from or just finding out who their parents are siblings or family members that you know in the crazy world that we live in of the non divorced families and what not being not as popular as it used to be like you know people don't know who their parents were or father or mother this whatever now that's that's had a huge effect on that I mean this whole industry just for that now based on that ancestry dot com you know so whole whole mess of online subscription based companies there. I mean they've certainly found a way to monetize it. Well and what's interesting is some of that has been the source of litigation now of people being able to government entities being able to gain access to you submitting your DNA some of those sites to see if they can find it's not only somebody created a crime because really the only way that you're going to be a store as if there's been prior DNA logged it's been in a national what they call the code is database and that is logged in there and that's what they have access to but now there is talking there is legislation being brought about to have access to these you know these DNA sites to where maybe if they can't find the DNA of somebody who is actually committed to crime the DNA that they have collected from say a crime scene they can find somebody related to them and track them down that way that's insane to me I'm not I don't think I'm in favor of that. No and I feel like that would quickly kill that industry. Oh oh oh oh I mean as soon as that starts actually if that actually started happening then people are just not going to you know I already don't want to do that. I wouldn't do it for that. I mean you know that already don't. That originally came up me and the wife both were like hmm I don't like that just my DNA is now out there available to some shady characters to get a hold of and do something with. Yeah I just I don't even want the government. Not alone the government. Yeah I mean anybody it's it's your DNA then only becomes as secure as you know whatever server it's on. And we know how that goes and yeah we'll get into servers and stuff in a little bit in another topic but yeah that to me that does not make me comfortable just doesn't make me comfortable. So I don't want to know my ancestry bad enough to give that up. No. No. You afraid you come back as like a gypsum or a Moroccan there. No I mean I don't really feel like I need to because my my sister did that and I mean mine has to be. It's like you're good. I mean I got all her information she got so I would imagine we're the same. Under the full assumption that you know you both have the same parents and a half parent right here somewhere but who the heck knows. I'm not super worried about it and if there was I probably don't want to know about it so we're good. That's great. Yeah. Alright man is that you got anything else to do now? No I mean I mean like I said I'm not super super. I don't know so I'm like knowledgeable on it other than what we see on TV and yeah and obviously how it's affected you know the old you know police and FBI and all that stuff and how they solve cases and whatnot. So obviously it's had a huge impact there. It's been able to you know kind of correct wrongs as far as people being wrongly accused. Yeah not just accused but convicted. Yeah and there's been over 3,000 people since the event. I think 3,000 3,000 3,000 was the number that I saw that have had convictions overturned due to DNA evidence. And that's a good thing right. Yeah it's not a bad thing. You know you hate to think I mean that the judicial system is certainly not perfect and more than a couple people have you know been wrongly convicted so if you can correct that with DNA that's a good thing. If Andy DeFran had DNA he uh... Andy DeFran yeah it's shock shank redemption. Oh Andy. He might not have been convicted of killing his wife because I assume that he didn't because that was a story but I assume that he did. Yeah did he? Think he did? I think he did. No differences, differences. Great movie though. I'll go back and watch it now. Great movie. Really. It's a great movie. There's some sprajoves seen it. Uh huh. Yeah one of my favorites actually. Okay. One of my favorites. Brooks was here. I mean that's got some great parts. 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There are grown adults right now who do not know what life is like without internet. Yeah. That's wild. It's scary. It's scary. It's just crazy. I mean, I guess throughout history, there's always been things like that or a generation. Yeah, but I feel like for a long time there wasn't. I mean, I feel like there has been nothing that in my opinion has ruined childhood more than the internet. I mean, when we were kids, it was like one you didn't want to ruin it or has it changed it? Well, I mean, as someone who's raised two children that never knew what it was like to not have the internet, I mean, their childhood, there's certainly different than ours. Did your kids spend more time inside than you did when you were kids? Yes. For sure. But they at least had organized sports that they were involved with, you know, that got them out of the house. But I feel like we as children didn't have, we didn't rely on organized sports to be outside with other kids playing and doing those things. So definitely, it definitely changed it in that way. And maybe, you know, us or age can look at it and say it's for the worst, you know, it's not as good, but they don't know any better. And they've, you know, I mean, it's definitely out of effect. Some of some people haven't handled it. Some younger people haven't handled it as well as others and aren't as well rounded because of it. But yeah, I just feel like when we were kids, one you didn't want to be inside, you were angry if it rained and you were stuck inside. Yeah. And that's how you hung out with your friends. Let's get out. Just get out. Get out of the house. Get out of the house. Get out. Tell you interacted. You saw people. I don't know. It's it. Anyway, you go ahead and talk about your world wide web. You're not going to get off on that. Dang it. So true, worldwide, a real web was invented in 1989 by not Al Gore. He swore it was him. He did. He told everybody. So Tim, burners Lee and Robert Eilow, as I'm sure I'm pronouncing they're wrong. But two Brits, 1989, they invented the code and the algorithm that the worldwide web is based upon as we know it today, the WWW. Right. So. So if you go back to Bull George, Little Bert, High School, I really know we didn't there was no WWW. There was no. We playing on the internet. It wasn't even talk. Here's the thing. I feel like there wasn't even talk about it. Just all of a sudden it was there. It was just like people went to college like our generation people with the college and it was like, what is this? Well, this is the worldwide web and we use, you know, this to get online and we had these PBS, these bulletin board systems and you had, you know, it seemed like we went from zero to a thousand miles an hour in like two or three years. We went from not knowing what something was to you've got mail. Yeah. I mean, in high school the closest thing to it was a typing class. We had basic programming. Remember, I took basic programming and basic programming was like, you know, I can't even describe it. It was like basically you entering commands and code into a cold screen, black, little box letter, writing numbers, green letters. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm like, oh my god, that's ancient. And now a generation later, like there's whole college, major, whole careers, like whole lifestyles that are built upon this thing. Really what I would consider one generation, in one generation, this has evolved faster and more rapidly than anything that I can think of in the history of mankind. Yes. So the invention of the internet to where we are now, it's all happened super fast. So quick. Super fast. It's crazy. And it's an industry. There's money, it costs me money to get online every month. Right? I mean, here, especially depending on where you're at, I mean, like we don't have very much competition in and out here. The Pine Barrens in New Jersey, we basically have one provider, so they just slam you with it. And you're just, you know, you're consuming, I am probably consuming most of my stuff off of the internet to the point where even my TVs now are streamed off of the internet. So huge snowball effect of that. It's insane gotten to the point now where people are cutting the cord, cutting the cords, you know, and getting away from cable internet or cable TV and now everything is streaming. And it streaming is one of those things, you know, that is part of the internet evolution that is, and this isn't the only thing in this list that I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to do that. Yeah, that's a bullshit. Yeah, I don't want to be bothered with that. And probably a year or two after I said that, I'm like, yeah, let's do that. That sounds like a good idea. It's insane where this beast has come and everything, I feel like so many things I do now aren't internet. I worked from home all day on the internet. Yeah, everything, I mean, and I think the rest of our list kind of is all connected to which is why it was important to do the internet, which is why we do that first. So you know what's scary when you think about what you just said with the streaming and how you decide to go streaming. And what's one of the major reasons we all have switched to streaming? What's the cost of cable? It cheaper. I mean, it's much cheaper than cable and it's much cheaper. I got to be honest, it is, I don't know what much I cut mine in half by switching from direct TV satellite to YouTube TV. Cut it in half. Yeah. That's the thing, right? So everybody does that and you're going to put cable and direct TV at a business and then guess what happens? Streaming costs. Skyrocket and we're right back to paying what we were just with a different sort of platform. Well, and I think like part of that and anything that we've had in a capitalist society in this country, part of that is going to be how it is regulated and how companies consume one another. Years ago, cable I feel was a little bit different and when you have different providers, the cost and more competition, the cost kind of stays down a little bit. And right now with streaming, you've got YouTube, you've got Hulu, whom I'm missing. I mean, there are still a bunch of free stuff to be. Yep. To be I think to be. Teevo? There's this Teevo still a thing? I don't know. Teevo's not a Apple TV's a thing. Yeah. I mean, there's a bunch of different. There's a ton of them. Streaming providers. There's a ton of them and you're dependent upon an internet provider, obviously to get your streaming provider. And. So I guess that keeps Comcast and business, huh? That will keep Comcast and business. In your cable, I feel like your cable's just going to get your cable and it's just going to get more expensive. That's going to be the killer. Well, because everybody's going to stop using them for TV and just use them. And just use them for the internet providing. And then that's going to be like, okay, now we got to make up for everybody not having cable TV. Now we got to jack up our internet prices. And I'm one of those people that when the cable company's going to business on even care because I feel like cable companies have been just raping us for the better part of a decade. Or do you stop and think about what we pay to watch TV? It's ridiculous. What was free? What was free? In this country, where TV was free, it was broadcast over the year. I think about the people that don't watch TV and they spend most of their time outdoors or whatever and they're like just laughing at us. Right. They don't care about TV. So they're out doing their thing and we're over here paying $200 plus a month to watch TV. Just to watch TV. And the stuff that's on TV is crap. Mind you, I don't watch $200 a month worth of TV. I think you guys might. I feel like you and Carolyn might watch. All these nice things I do is because working from home, I always have it on. Yeah. I don't have that kind of thing. But how much we actually watch together, like in evenings, really varies. Yeah. In the nice weather, it's very minimal. But then it's picking up now as it starts to get colder and we're not outside doing anything at six o'clock, seven o'clock in the evening. We're probably in front of the TV watching something as we talk and stuff. Yeah, it's obviously sports. I watch about sports. Yeah, almost of us do. But ironically, like the TV seasons and all these episodes and stuff, they revolve around that change of season. Oh, absolutely. There's nothing good on the summer. Yeah, yeah. You don't put anything on because they know nobody's home. And all the good shows, again, I'm using quotes for those of you not able to watch on YouTube on programs. They know and they don't put squat on in the summer and then all the good shows are starting like right now as the weather, as the time change happens and it gets cold in at least half of the country. That's when all the good stuff comes on. So they know what they're doing. Oh, yeah, they're not stupid. So I just feel like that is, you know, when you look at what the web and how it has moved this technology and even more things that we're about to talk about here, it is just that stuff has grown insanely fast. And they're like saying, yeah, absolutely. How huge of a change in like our lives that email make. So email and I run. She got some stuff on email. Ironically, email is older than the worldwide web by more than a decade. Which is really. Yeah. I don't know how that works. So the first email was sent in 1971 by a guy named Ray Thomlinson and he sent a message between two machines that were right next to each other in the same room, but not connected, like not, but not. But not. And not physically connected. Don't ask me how he did that. That's no. That like the great thing when he's talking about the whole. We're so far we're internet. We take it for granted. How in the world did he do that? How big was his brain? How did he come up with that? I got it. Yeah, it's crazy, but I don't understand. So you don't need the internet to send an email? I guess not. I guess not. It happened. It happened over. You don't even have an answer for this, do you? I don't. But I'm looking at you for the dirty answers. I don't have it. I don't have it. I don't have it. I don't have the gigant for it. But it's over a decade before the invention of the worldwide web that they sent, you know, one email. And it was the first time that the @Sign was used or as dirty geeky people would call it the ampersand. I don't call it an ampersand. I think Stacy calls it an ampersand. The same. That's like, I don't know. So that's somebody that really learned typing on a typewriter now. Isn't that where it would have been on? An ampersand would have probably been there. Yeah. Yeah. I think the coders used it and Stacy did some coding and stuff in college. Is it called a pound sign? Like was that the original name for it? Well, the original name for that is a pound sign. Is it? For those of you listening who are trying to scratch your head who were too young because there's a generation of you that is too young to know what a pound sign is, it is a hashtag. Yeah. Yeah. We've tweaked like every one of those things that's on like an old keyboard is not a thousand different name just based on technology and the way it's advanced. And generations are like, that's a pound sign. Yeah. It's like, what's a pound? A pound. Can you get a pound? Can you get a pound? Can you get a pound? A pound sign? Yeah. What's next? What else? Because we're going to build on, I think we're building on the internet with this list. We are definitely building on the internet. This on the list is, and this is one that kind of surprised me, we can just roll right into social media. And this is some stuff that really kind of surprised me. The first social media site, I didn't even know the name of it. I never heard of it. I don't remember it. 1997, six degrees.com. First social media site, it was invite only and it allowed people to maintain a profile and keep a list of connections. And it had three million users before it was bought out. We couldn't find out who it was bought out for. I looked at it, but it was bought for 125 million. Yeah, so just. Yeah. My first recollection of social media was my space. Right. So that was not too long after that. Yes. I never heard of that. I think probably by the time I got, you know, using a computer more regularly. Yeah. I mean, now computers like became a big one I was in college. Like that's when they really started becoming normal, but I didn't really use one. You know, we had a computer lab in college that you can go and you had a university email address, right? But I never used it. I really didn't use it for like any of my school work. It wasn't like it is now where these kids do everything on the computer. So it wasn't until after I got out and got married that we got like our first home computer. And that's when kind of my space kind of took off for that very short period before it escalated into Facebook and everything else. We had a Commodore 64. Yeah. What did you do with that? We weren't aligned with that. We weren't aligned with that. I'll tell you where it worked. We were not. Right. I was with a Commodore 64. I feel like that was what I would consider the first computer that we had in the house. And it was supposed to be used for word processing. That was the thing. It was a really super fancy word processor. And for those of you who don't know what a word processor is, that is a little machine that came out to replace the typewriter. It was essentially a high tech. It was essentially high tech. With like the print and stuff. That was just difficult to use. You just have to put a paper and you just typed everything up on your thing and then you printed it. On your dot matrix printer. Yes. That's pretty cool. They were terrible. Where they were. There's long reams of paper. So that's not what the Commodore 64 was actually used for though. The Commodore 64 was used to play gunship. Did you play your games? That was like the video game of that platform was gunship. And it was an Apache flight simulator that was so complicated that you know two people, it took two people to play. You know, like you could have one. It basically a pilot and a navigator and it was a it was an insane game. So, but you know, I digress and get off topic on home PCs. But the maybe we should be talking about the home PC. I guess that would have been circa 1990. Probably 1990. Nope. Late 80s maybe Commodore 64. I looked up and the first personal computers going out into homes was 1977. 1977. Wow. Who had that kind of money? Like who had that and what were you using it for 1977? Yeah, I don't know. I need just to say you had one that was a catch. That was a catch. I just like to know what the first like the first person that brought one home is every seven to their family for Christmas. Like what was the plan? Like what were you doing with it? I have no idea. No idea. I remember. Just never reminds me of the first first vacation movie. National Land Coons. Yeah. Okay. The first one where they were going to Wally world. Oh yes. I have seen it. I have seen it. The very beginning they're at home and they sat down to like plan out their trip and they had the little car that like was going across the country. Yes. And then then one of the other kids came in and they had packed man like Jason and all the good. That's what I feel like anybody that had one at that point that's pretty much all you were doing with it. Oh man. They had him mapping out the vacation on the map but it really didn't map out squat. He was just kind of going just kind of moving across the map. I remember that. That's fancy for back in the day. That's fancy for back in the day. That'd be early 80s right? First vacation. Like it was. Yeah. The family truckster. Family truckster. So you were my space 03 huh? I thought my space was earlier and we talked about this. My timeline got all kinds of mystery. Yeah. Definitely not. I was definitely like 03 because I was married and her and I discovered it. We both had a little my space things. My page had you know, steal their stuff all over it. It was cool because you could like design your profile page with things and that was so like exciting and new and I feel like I don't know if I I don't remember ever having a my space. You probably didn't. I honestly, it was like a flash in the pain kind of thing because it was it got really big but for a very short period of time. And then like it was moving on to the Facebook was did more and you could do more with it. Oh, four man Facebook came out and then like between 03 and 05. A lot of stuff sprinkled in. Yeah, yeah, a few things. And I mean, LinkedIn YouTube WordPress which I am is basically a website kind of design platform I think is worse seen the name but I've never seen it. And then 06 Twitter. It took Twitter a while to to grab on but those I feel like those were the big ones and even then I feel like LinkedIn it took LinkedIn a while like I feel LinkedIn is still I feel like LinkedIn is still yet to hit it stride. Well, LinkedIn is primarily used for people trying to find jobs now or people in career fields and such. I feel like it's evolving more than that now though. I feel like it's going to be hard for them to overcome that fact that that's what like it's primarily used for and not like fun stuff right. So yeah, it's going to be hard to like shake that stigma of that's what it kind of is like I can go to LinkedIn to like make connections to find to make a career move things like that. Yep. I don't know man. I don't see that changing to what people are going to LinkedIn to like do the stuff that they do on Instagram post and memes and Facebook and things like. Well, no, no, I mean, so what's it going to be? I think it's still professional. I know in most industries, especially in healthcare in my industry, a lot of stuff goes on LinkedIn when research breaks or when there's conferences going on and all that stuff is happening. A lot of that is getting posted to LinkedIn and I think the driver of that is that people are trying to grow that LinkedIn network and this is the byproduct of people trying to grow their LinkedIn network. I mean, if you're a recruiter, you want to grow your LinkedIn network. You know, if you're a company and you're looking for quality employees and quality help, you want to have a lot of people following you on LinkedIn. Yeah. So think about how many people you automatically lose when the whole site is like basically revolves around careers. Absolutely. And it is what it does. I mean, it is a niche. I'm not arguing that but I feel like in the past, I want to say like three years I've seen LinkedIn and I've seen my LinkedIn activity go up. I go to LinkedIn more than I go to Twitter or X or whatever. You don't use Twitter. Rarely, rarely. And most of what I use Twitter for is for work related stuff. The only time I go to LinkedIn is if I get a notification that someone I know has either sent me a message or has posted something. So I go check that out but I don't spend much time in LinkedIn. I mean, yeah. I don't know. I guess if I would certainly be looking there, I've looked there when I was like job hunting and things like that, checking out. People I know who are with different companies and stuff and kind of like, you know, using it for that purpose, but I could never see LinkedIn being something I do for entertainment purposes. No, I don't think it's that dry. Which is why I think it loses like a huge chunk of the market. Yeah. Yeah. Because Instagram alone is created careers for thousands of young ladies out there. You know. So Instagram is doing it. Doing it. Social justice. Oh man. It's doing it. It's employing the ladies across the globe. It is flipped social inequality over on top of it said for sure. I'm sure people like to argue that fact, but it has. I'm like, what'd you say? It didn't make. But yeah, well, there we go. But yeah, I don't see. I don't use Twitter a lot. I use Instagram. I used to use Facebook until like the 2016-2020 elections. And I'm just, I really don't use Facebook a lot. Twitter's tough because it's so. You'll never be big if you're not some sort of celebrity status or someone who's known, you know. Yeah. And if you can't just be an average schmuck that just is an average human person that doesn't isn't known, you're not, you're not, it was, I'm not just celebrity status, but like a public figure kind of status. You're never going to do anything other than read other people's stuff because your stuff is never really going to get seen. And I feel like you could have a tweet blow up. But that doesn't mean you could have a tweet blow up, but it's not going to blow you up. Doesn't mean a lot of people are going to follow you. Right. You could definitely have a tweet or something go viral, but it doesn't mean that you're ever going to have, you know, 500,000 people following you on Twitter just because of that. You've been active on Twitter if you had anything to viral? No. No. And I just, you know, just go on there. You're going to argue with people about politics, but I had to get off a Facebook for that. I used to do the Facebook thing and argue with people and it's just a white male that me because it's like people we know and stuff. So I'm like, I go on Twitter where no one knows me and I'll just argue with people there. But now I mean, I'll post stuff on there on our baggers and brews just because, you know, because why not? It takes a few seconds. You know, you know, use everything you can when you're trying to have like a business thing or whatever, but Twitter is not anything in our wheelhouse for baggers and brews or for this. You know, it's just if you're not a celebrity, people aren't going to see your stuff. Yeah. It's kind of, I mean, it's very true. I mean, unless you have a bunch of people following you, it's just even to get buried. You guys going to get in. I mean, at least on Instagram, I mean, you can grow on there gradually, you know, over time, more people follow. And at least when you post something, all those people that are following you have the opportunity to see it. But I mean, on YouTube, it's just like I could post something on there and get like one person actually even sees it. Yeah. Yeah, it's so tough. But that was the, I mean, I feel like social media now went from, I mean, we're just, you know, you're talking a little over 20 years from something that people did, well, from something that did not exist to something that people use as an everyday part of their lives or even to the point where a lot of people use it to make a living. People use it definitely and we touch on that. But there's a lot of different ways that it's used to make a living. But also just like using it in like day to day, like for your own use for day to day, other than just strolling for entertainment purposes, you find a lot of things on there. Like you find things happening locally that you might want to go do. You see, you know, there's pages, you know, if you're tuned into the right stuff, you see events and things going, happenings in your area, festivals and things like that. That's where everybody advertises now, right? If you're not, if you have a business and you're not on social media, like you're behind, whatever the business is, it's a place or anything. Like you should have that because that's where everybody sees that stuff. That's where we see restaurants that we end up to go and to try breweries. I've found a million breweries that I, you know, are on my list to go see because I've seen them on Instagram or Facebook. All those things, like I've literally day to day stuff, I use it for other than just entertaining myself, like scrolling, like I actually find things, things to buy. Like you see different things that you end up wanting to buy. It's integrated into your life. But here's the flip side. I mean, what, how did people use to get that information and the newspaper? Telephone book, newspaper, you know, local, local newspapers. I feel like, you know, we still have the Pinelands Tribune here that comes out that has some local stories in it. When we lived, when I was in Browns Mills in permanent township, we used to have the community news. And that was your local paper that I think was free that you could pick up at the Wawa or the Cumberland Farms or whatever we had back then locally. And that's how people got there, their local happenings, whether it was a fall festival or whether it was, you know, a coupon for the local pizza joint or what have you, all of that was there. But I think that's why I would say this current system of social media is more beneficial to businesses because what did you have to do? You had to physically pick that up and go look at it. But as the business, you had to pay to advertise in there. You didn't have to pay to advertise. So, you know, all these things that we see that we decide we want to go do because we saw it on Instagram or whatever. Like you wouldn't have saw that because most, you know, your local places weren't spending the money to advertise in there. So they got their advertising through like just local or to mouth for a restaurant or a pizza place or whatever, you know, same pizza place, I guess I want pizza, but, you know, they weren't all in there because people weren't, they weren't spending the money to get your ad in the paper. Yeah. Whereas now you don't have to. You go on Instagram and you create your profile, your page for your business. And now you just pump out all the advertising content you want on there. Yep. And you just gradually grow by sharing things and putting stuff out and the more you put stuff out, the bigger you grow and the more people follow you and the more people see it and the more your business takes off. Exactly. So it's definitely beneficial for businesses, I believe, you know, over old school newspaper. Yeah. I think it is. And I mean, the flip side is on the internet, you know, and not to go look too much into the weeds in this business. Because it can't pay to advertise on the internet and they will be pushed up in searches or they'll be pushed out to markets of their choosing, depending upon the platform they're on their advertising. So you can pay to get better or more prominent exposure. Yeah, you can boost your, your posts or boost this ad or whatever. Which I mean, if you have a legitimate business, and you're just considering that as part of your fund for marketing, I mean, it's cheaper than hiring a marketing firm. Yeah, your marketing, right? I think it definitely is. You just spend a few dollars to boost some posts and you're going to probably be ahead of where you would be if you did nothing and save more money than if you had an actual, you know, hard and marketing firm to handle it for you. So it's got its benefits for sure. Yeah. And it's definitely changed the way people advertise on this modern day. 100%. 100% has changed. I mean, before you get like one picture of a business and like that was what you got and it was probably like their, their marquee, like logo or something like that or a half here. But now you can go on, you can look at the food, you can, like pictures at the restaurant, you can do so much stuff now. Mm-hmm. It's crazy. I think it's a positive change. Yeah. Yeah, I don't knock it. I don't knock it. It's just a big change in life. I mean, we used that phone books. We don't have phone books anymore. Remember everybody's phone number when I was a kid because you had to actually dial those phone numbers. And now I don't know anybody. I don't know your phone number. I know my wife's phone number. I know my wife's phone number. And I think that's it. I have two children. I don't have their phone numbers number. No, why? Because you just type on, you know, type on a name and it dials. Wild. That was my dialings. So think about that though. Like when we were in high school, like I know, I mean, not so much me. I had a couple of people, but I know like Carolyn had all these numbers like all these people who've memorized and I don't know. I don't know. I didn't know any, but I knew like two or three friends that I called right away. And everybody else who's like, I don't know, I don't know if I have to write it down somewhere. Oh, definitely. Something's gone with age is like that like memory bank. Yeah, but see, that's the bad thing, right? We don't have to remember as much stuff. So like our brains aren't as like, I feel that I don't know. I feel like it's not as good. It's not a good thing. No, I feel like it's not good. We don't have to memorize anything because it's all like right in the little thing in our hand. Like everything's there. And you don't remember anything. So that's that can't be good. You know, now they have all these play these games to help improve brain health and all this stuff, right? Because they realize everybody's become a friggin vegetable with everything's just everybody's become so automated written down for them and automated and you know how they memorize anything. So now they're like, well, now when you think that keep people's brains healthy because you're getting early onset dementia because you're not using your brain for anything. You're not wrong. It's crazy. No, it's a vicious cycle, man. There's always negatives to technological advancements. I mean, there's always positives, but there you're right. Of course. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely positives, but there's always negatives. Unintended consequences from everything that we invent. True story. Speaking of unintended consequences, unintended consequences. 1994, all right? Here we have to graduate high school. 1994, the Stanford Federal Credit Union was the first bank to offer online banking. 1994. Change things. Before 1994, and even well after 1990, because I feel like I was still writing checks and mailing in bills for a long time. I think it was like a slow process. I was a slow adapter to online banking to the point where I don't even know that I personally adapted to online banking because now Stacey pays all the bills. You never had to because someone else adapted for you. Yes, because I just, I just, you know, I'm not good at that stuff. But it's changed the world. Your kids may never write a check. They probably wouldn't know how to write a check. And we started checking. I think mine would. I think they're, they're a little, we tried to teach them a little. You tried to keep, keep trying to keep them a little, a little sane. But yeah, no, it's a whole generation. Like, what am I, what am I going to do with the check? Like, you hit the balance of checkbook. It was a skill. Um, balancing the checkbook. It was a skill. You had to, I'm sure Stacey still does that. I don't know if she does or not. My mom does it. My mom, Carolyn does for sure. My mom has got like the checkbook registry and I'm like, what the heck is that? I'm like, if I want to find it, I'll just go in and look on my online banking. And it'll show me all my stuff. But the reality is, it's bad because if somebody was somehow figured it a way to like scam me for money, like a few bucks a month, you might not. I wouldn't notice it all. No, I wouldn't notice. I wouldn't notice because I don't really check and look down and be like, okay, yeah, that was mine. That was mine. That was mine. That was what is that? What's that charge? Like, I don't do that. Yeah. I just assume that all my charges are correct. And I feel like there's, so we talk about every positive and the negative. I feel like there's a couple of things with online banking. I feel like the positive is the technology allows you to kind of always know what's pending. Yes. So a charge hits, you know that charge may not be paid, but it's pending. So you can see that it's pending. Where before the only way that you knew that something was pending was if you wrote down a check that you wrote in your ledger and you went through and figured out how much money was there and how many checks you wrote, you could figure out that that check and not you had hit the bank. Right. Or you had to wait to the end of the month when you're banking statement because they sent those banking statements out like once a month, you had to wait and get your banking statement and then you would see you're fine, your errors because it was always like an error. So I feel like in a way it's allows people, gets people a platform to be more efficient and more accurate with their money. Yeah. That's the bonus, right? The negative is I feel like we spend more money because the automatic subscriptions and online stuff that people have now. I feel like it's something that people probably wouldn't have written a check for. I'm paying $9.99 a month for an eye cloud. Yeah. Am I going to write a check to Apple every month for nine months? That's, I don't know that I am. But that's a huge part of the advancements of technology that we have all those things now that you put in an extra four that we wouldn't have back when we were writing checks. Yeah. So we can have them. You know, and come to think of it, like when you go into that process saying that like I did realize like I do have a way and this is only because my wife was like, get turned this on is that they now you have like the ability to turn something on to that every time you do something with your card. I get an alert on my smartphone. Yes. That shows that or anything that was done with my card, my debit card, credit card, whatever. I get an alert so that I see it. So I can click on and say, yeah. And usually it's like, I just went to Wawa. I'm by the time I get to the car. It pops up and I'm like, yeah, I did that. You know, good. But if I didn't do anything and all of a sudden one pops up, I look at it. Like what is that? Like make sure. And then nine times out of 10, probably nine and a half times out of 10. It's some sort of online thing that I'm set up to automatically charge. But if someone did some sort of scamming thing and they're trying to buy something with my card in the Walmart and Arkansas, like it's going to pop up. And I'm going to be able to say I'm going to be able to dispute it instantly. Like you're that's not me because I'm not an Arkansas. So I will say that's another reason I'm comfortable not balancing a checkbook because I get every alert for every charge on my card. So I can confirm right off the bat what it was that it was it's accurate. So and that leads us that leads us to our next our next item here, which is the ATM, the automatic teller machine, which I feel like was a slow adapter. First ATM 1967 in London shortly, Switzerland was very quick to adopt them. You know, those Swiss guys man there all about their banks and their watches. And by slow, I feel like this of the technology that we're talking about, I feel like this was the slowest adoption because I remember my parents and this had to be in the 80s. It wasn't in the 70s and we're talking about 67. The first one was invented. I remember my parents getting an ATM machine and ATM card because I remember in Brown's Mills when they put in the first machine and it wasn't an ATM. It was called the Mac. Same thing. It is the same thing. But if you talk to Stacy, you say, "Oh, we used to go to the Mac machine." And we still would call it like the Mac machine. We used to call it the Mac like. Yep. Money access center. That's what it stood for. But that was tap the Mac. That was tap the Mac. That's it. But for people who grew up 100 miles away, they had no idea what the Mac was for some reason. It was always just as easy. Yes, that would be was regional. I feel like it might have been regional on head that you know, I could still see like the Mac logo, you know, with the blue and the blue. We always said Mac like the early days, even when we were in high school, me, my family, my sisters, my parents said Mac and somewhere along the way, it just kind of changed ATM. Yep. So I don't know why, but it's the same damn thing. But talking about slow adoption, it wasn't a revolutionized until like 2007. It feel like really? Yep. Yeah, well, this is my notes here across stuff, but ATM is Macs, all kind of the same thing. Online banking wasn't revolutionized until 2007. Right, right. Right. Because in 2007, Apple came in with a smartphone. People were getting by that time. People were getting efficient home computers. Everything was like the environment was like taking place for online banking to really get in there and ATM is obviously being part of that. But you figure 1994 to 2007 of the technologies that we're talking about 1967, you know, those, I feel like this is the stuff that of everything was the slowest to adopt. I know why that is though. Why? Because people, people and their money. People resist it because they don't care. Security. Yep. Security. I mean, I still have reservations about online banking. No, but I have in-laws, parents that are like not so much my parents, but definitely my in-laws are like very hesitant to have bills be paid online, things like that. Like they're very skeptical and you got to think there's probably a large population of older people when that started becoming popular that we're not going to trust that. Yeah. They were very, no, you know, they were refusing to be a part of that. So it took them getting older and the younger generations of technology kids coming up to like kind of weed them out and for that to grow because so many people when that came out or like no, they're not going to do that. They want to have their checkbook. They want to go into the bank and talk to the teller because it's locally in the town. You know, they knew them. It was kind of a relationship kind of thing when it came to money and you trusted people because you wanted to know them. Your banks were small. Loads came from small banks. Those days are gone. Yeah. Small banks don't exist anymore. Yeah. I'm actually surprised that we still have branches because as of 2022, 78% of US people prefer mobile banking or via app or website and only 29% of people prefer in-person banking. Yeah. We still do go to the bank on occasion. Okay. But it's for specific stuff. Yes. Like Carolyn had to go to the bank today because she received a check for every little state check for someone at home and because they still have like certain amounts, you can't do the remote. The remote. Take the picture and deposit it. Yeah. So you got a certain amount. You have to take it in. There's a lot of things there for that. So I would imagine at some point that'll change. I can't imagine we're far from that. I can't imagine we're far from that. Yeah, we can't be too far from that. But yeah, you're right. It used to be. You used to be able to go into your local bank. You needed a loan and it was like a personal one-on-one connection with the banker and you could pitch them whatever it was you were trying to get a loan for. Startnab. And they know you and you could kind of sell them or pitch them on giving you the loan and they would do it based on knowing you and your plan, blah, blah, blah. Now that's all calling. The whole personal connection for any kind of loan is like, you put this, this, this, this put all this information into the system and the computer tells you whether or not you're getting that loan or not. Yep. It's pretty like cut and dry. It's faster, but it's not personal at all. There's no. They're not even call personal loans anymore. No. No. And I think that's the thing that's changed, right? They don't even call personal loans. So it's, I mean, when you went to get your house, you went to bank to get a loan, you went to mortgage and I feel like, you know, even my parents mortgage, I remember was held by a company called Kizlak Mortgage and Kizlak was based, it was a New Jersey based company that New Jersey based bank mortgage company that was in Newark because I can remember right over the old Kizlak building was in Newark, New Jersey that those days are gone. Those days are gone. So even like when you get a mortgage, you might get a mortgage through, you know, somebody and then they will sell that mortgage to another mortgage company. Quick too. Within 30 to 60 days. They have in our very first mortgage and that's going back to 2001. Yeah. People just buying and telling mortgages. It's like, yeah, we got our mortgage, we bought our first home and then all of a sudden, you know, obviously my wife's the smart one. She's telling me, yeah, someone else has our mortgage now. I don't understand. Can you draw me a picture with crayons because I don't understand what you're talking about? And you have no say over that. No. Yeah, you have no say. I remember we got our first mortgage through Wiker Mortgage and within 60 days of being in a house, our mortgage company was sold to a company called Aqua and who is literally the scum of the earth mortgage companies on the planet. They're just a terrible company to deal with. They've had multiple class action lawsuits against them. And as a consumer, you have no say. How did that ever fly? Well, how did that ever happen? Like because I don't know. I go pick who I want to have. You know, I go, I have to go and I choose who I'm trying to get my mortgage through and I go through all the bull crap that you got to do to get a mortgage and I do that because I, whatever, whatever reason. And then they, they, they, they sell three weeks later, they sell it to somebody that I don't like that now I have to deal with and it's a problem and they're a headache and you know, nothing's ever smooth like, yeah, who thought that was okay and how do we allow that to happen? Yeah, it's, it's a problem. It's a problem. So last one here, last one. Yeah, and we, you know, if you're counting, George didn't stick to the script. So we might be on eight or nine, but we're going to just say this is five. I said a lot of this stuff like wove together. Absolutely. It's once you, and that's why we started with DNA testing because once you open to this can of worms called the World Wide Web and the Internet, everything, so many things have been, you know, use that as a plan. And I feel like this last one is the culmination. That's just brought it all, all of these things together to the palm of our hands. He said the culmination did say a T word, look it up. But again, tying in social media, that's assuming he's going to read off the right thing right now. And he doesn't, he doesn't know. But tying in the World Wide Web, tying in social media, tying in online banking, tying in everything that we do today is the smartphone. That's right. And first smartphone, 1992. And I know it's smartphones in 1992. Almost a bit of burga as kid. I certainly didn't have one. IBM. I also think they're consideration of what a smartphone was. At that point, isn't necessarily what any of us would think of today. Well, correct. By that point, and I read this, that by their definition of smartphone, could, had a calendar, had a clock, could keep appointments, had a notepad that you could enter stuff onto. So if you had one of those smartphones today, you'd be like, what is this crap? What is that stuff? But yeah, and it was sold by Bell South, which was a division of AT&T when all of that Bell South and like NJ Bell we had here and all that stuff was broke up. And it was->> My work for my Bell.>> Did she work for my Bell? There you go.>> She was an operator for a long time and I was with AT&T. I'm pretty sure she was. You know what? My sister's going to listen to this because she's a loyal listener and she'll be sure to let me know if I'm wrong. Which is cool.>> Because she's the one, she's the family member that keeps track of history of our family.>> Leave it in the comments.>> In fact, she will->> She said this in email.>> She did, I saw, why I saw.>> So yeah.>> Oh man, it was called the Simon Personal Communicator.>> That's just too much to say.>> Yeah, it was called the Simon Personal Communicator.>> The SPC, baby.>> Yes, please.>> Because you know that's what we call that if that happened today. I go, I got my SPC. There's nobody saying that. I'm sure it's what IBM wanted to have happened. But so, 1992, it wasn't until 2001 that cell phones could access the internet. So that was again, and technology kind of a leap when you figure out the internet was actually around before 1992 to be able to turn around and access that. Wasn't until 2001, I feel like- what was your first cell phone?>> So, I had a flip phone. I would say 99. Okay, 99 2000, definitely 2000, maybe 2000. I'm trying to think I was with the previous person. And she got the plan. We both had a phone, it was in her name, had the phone. So it was like, it was at least, definitely 2000, if not 99. I had it in 2001. I got with my wife, and that's when I had to get rid of that phone, and we got phones together or an eye.>> So, 99 was your first?>> So, I think I had a flip phone of some type in 1999 and thought I was cool. I feel like I was a year behind you. I feel like maybe 2000, I had that little flip phone with the antenna came up and then LG, this company called LG. It was huge now. LG came out with this phone. That was the slim line phone. It was, I don't know, maybe like five inches this way, and it was compact and it did not, it was not a flip phone. And it had a little LCD screen. And that was the coolest shit, man. I was like, what? I don't have a flip phone. And I had that phone for a very long time. I feel like we had those phones. And flip phones are cool because they just fit in your pocket and they were small. But in 2002, and probably a year, probably 2003 or 2004, I wanted to put the job and want to put the blackberry.>> Blackberries.>> Blackberries were cool.>> Blackberries.>> Blackberries revolutionized. Now we're talking about smartphones and so many things what we do and instant messaging. For those of you who are too young to know, there used to be three letters on a number. So if you needed a C, you had to push the number to A, B, C. So three times to get the C. So texting was really not a thing that was popular. And we got the blackberry. The first thing to give you access to email. And it would give you a couple of like, there was a blackberry news network that would give you big headlines as they came across and that type of thing. But it also had a full keyboard on it. And for years, my brother-in-law was just, my brother-in-law, I was like, how do you send me all these full sentences so fast? Because he never knew I had a blackberry and he had this flip phone and he was trying to text like, yeah, these words back and I would send him back a paragraph.>> That was so fast.>> You know?>> Holy crap.>> Looking back at that. But it was like, it was cool, right? Because it was like, yeah, it took time. But like, you never were able to do that before that. So it was like, I was texting.>> You were texting?>> So even though I was like, that was one letter.>> Yep, that's it.>> So like, God, I mean, you, I'll tell you what, you were skilled if you could text people like paragraphs. Because most people were texting like three or four words just to get the point across.>> Because the point across and that was it.>> Because what a pain the butt.>> But the blackberry said a full keyboard.>> Blackberry, you just typed.>> Yeah.>> You were, you were, you had the thumbs and the thumbs were going.>> I'll tell you what, we, Carolyn, if you go down on our basement, we probably have the whole history of the cell phone in that basement.>> That's funny.>> Because we don't get rid of them. She keeps everyone.>> You should get on there and post a picture of like a flip phone or a->> Oh yeah.>> I will post that on our- >> A blackberry.>> Absolutely.>> People who might not know what those things are.>> We have all, like everyone I think we've ever had. We haven't thrown any of them out. They're all going like a box and we have them all.>> That's it, man. Crazy.>> That's funny.>> 2000. The first camera phone.>> Change things too.>> What?>> Crazy camera now.>> Camera, everybody's gone. So now we guys are at a point where people don't take cameras, right? You used to go on vacation to camera.>> I still take a camera. So super camera enthusiasts, that was my nice way of saying nerd. Still I'm cameras, but everybody else who used to have a camera, Polaroid, this and that, whatever, because you're on vacation, you see cool sites. Nobody has those anymore. We have our phones because the reality is they've come to the point where these phones have cameras that are so freaking good that you don't take->> Phones take great pictures.>> They take great pictures. They take great video. I will say that there are photos that I post on- and somebody's camera enthusiasts, I can usually take a look at a photo and determine whether or not it was a phone photo or an actual camera photo. But I'll post these pictures and people are like, "Oh my God, how did you- that picture's amazing." Well, that's because that picture was taken with an actual camera. An actual camera still do take better photos, but phones have given us, I would say the best camera you have is the one that's readily available and at your phone, man.>> It's made things easier for sure.>> Yeah.>> Where the average person might sacrifice a little bit in the maze, some sort of amazing photo quality.>> You're capturing a moment.>> You're capturing way more moments because people aren't just->> You know, so many people aren't going to want to carry around a camera to do that stuff and now it's just right there.>> Yeah.>> And that, you know, something we didn't even bring up, but the advent of the selfie.>> The selfie.>> Wait, you were just a selfie. I think you looked at it.>> I don't know, but nobody's taking a selfie with your big old M50 Canon over here.>> I could take a selfie with my phone.>> You ain't taking- you've never taken a selfie with that thing.>> You record ourselves a video with that? I could easily.>> Yeah, we record ourselves a video.>> Not true. We did a photo shoot the other day that has the photo that has->> There's a lot of tripod. That's not a selfie. Well, it's me taking a picture of myself.>> That is not a selfie. It's not a tripod. It's a timer. Let's be honest. If it's a selfie, your arm's like this. Your arm. Part of your arm and your shoulder has to be up for selfie.>> It's the rules, man.>> The rules.>> The rules of this stuff. Everybody knows the rules. So 2007, the first iPhone, 2008, the first Android. The evolution of these phones->> It has changed everything, man.>> It's changed everything. I mean, short of DNA, which I'm sure there's some way to incorporate that into what people do on phones. But I mean, everything else we talked about now, we're doing on our phones. Everything. Social media, online banking, photography.>> Listening to this podcast right now on your phone.>> Yeah. It's an amazing thing. And again, with all the positives that you can think of that come along with this technology, like we said, everything has unintended consequences and that kind of affects what we talked about earlier where kids aren't just now glued to these things because they're just- and it can be controlled and that's the problem as parents, people have gotten lazy. When we're giving kids iPhones at like three.>> Right.>> Like as soon as they're able to sit up and hold their neck up and hold something in their hands, it's like here's an iPhone, speak quiet for a minute, mom's got something to do. So they've grown up on these things. These kids can use it better than we can because they've just- that's all they've known and they know how to use it.>> I guess you could say the same thing for us. We were the latch key generation. We were the latch key kids. Both parents worked. We were like, all fair taining ourselves and it wasn't on the phone person.>> Right, right, right.>> I mean, we were, you know- >> But I feel like that's one of those negatives right because now kids more outside, they're not- they're not really actually interacting with other human beings. They're doing it via social media, which is what we're not very social because you're not actually seeing a person talking to a person, dealing with a person. It's so funny how we need to think social media. It's the least social thing you could do but because you were like, and you go to dinner with your spouse and you're both on your phone. We're all guilty of it. Right? It's become so natural and it's like you think when you really think about it, I know that's one of the things that my relationship, we're both like, we need to put these things down.>> Yeah, it's so tough. Even like when we were at dinner, I pulled out of my pocket, I put it down, and it was a table like face down and it stays the ass made question. I was like, "Call them, we'll put that up.">> Yeah, we use it for like stupid stuff.>> Then they're on the phone to my hand.>> You don't have it, it's weird. Let me tell you, let me tell you a funny, and this goes right to do with all this Friday night. We rolled out of the house. We were going to go, I told you we went to terrors. I told you just in the beginning, we went to terrors. We had dinner and we watched Karaoke, listening to Karaoke. But when we left the house, I was getting all my stuff. We were getting relief because first we had to go stop and she had to do something for real estate. We left the house. We got to where she was going to look at a house with someone and she was like, "All right, I'll wait in the car." You go do your thing. She went in the car and I went in my pocket to get my phone to entertain myself. I left the phone at home.>> You must have been freaking out.>> I cannot tell you the last time I left the house without the phone.>> Wow.>> Can I just tell you how bored out of my freaking skull?>> I was sitting there for 30 minutes while she was inside checking out this house to list. I'm like, I have, I'm like, listen to the radio in the car.>> I can't.>> But, but. We went out to dinner with the terrace. I didn't have a phone. I was never able to look at a phone and not pay attention to her. We had a great night. She really appreciated it. She was on her phone a little bit. Not a lot. She's not as bad as I am. It was a great time because I wasn't worried about my phone. Once I got that out of my system was like, because that's exactly what happens. You talk about something and you're like, I don't know. Let me look it up. You can do that every 20, you know? Talking about something. I don't know. Let me look it up. Once I got over the fact that I couldn't do that, we just had a good time. I didn't have my phone. It was a great night. You can do more of that.>> Just leave your phone home.>> Let me look at my calendar.>> Or work, you know. You don't want to leave your phone home because there could be an emergency when I need it. Leave it in the car if you go into dinner. If you're going, you and your wife are going inside to go to dinner. Leave it in the car. You don't need it for that hour hour and a half to it. Whatever. You don't need it.>> It's funny. Apple now has a thing where when I make a reservation on, say, open table and open table puts it into my Apple calendar automatically. When I go into the restaurant, the phone will ask me, do you want to be in do not disturb mode? It is the coolest thing. So that I will not get. Not only will I not get messages, phone calls, I will not get alerts. And alert is usually the thing that causes me to look at your phone. Look at my phone.>> Yeah. They get tension away from what it should be on. Yep. So, this is a good one. This is a good one.>> It's crazy. It's the stuff we talked about, man. It's so prevalent in our lives now that we don't really think about it. I don't think people stop and think about what life was like before these things because we're just so ingrained now. There's so much more we could have talked about. There's so many different things on the list. But this was good. This was fun. I mean, I hope it gave people things that they thought about.>> Good time.>> This went way longer than I thought.>> Yeah, I thought this would be a quick one. And here we are, just almost an hour and a half later, an hour and a half.>> Oh crap.>> And, well, I mean, listen, again, point of this podcast. These are things that we're talking about, things that affect us as Americans living in the country today. And I think when we came up with that concept, we didn't necessarily know. We didn't have a list of 50 topics that we were going to watch out here and cover. But that's exactly like we wanted to leave it open to whatever we might think up. And this was just one where, you know, just kind of came up. This was fun. But yeah, definitely fun. I'm sure there's so many things. When you think about inventions and technology and stuff that affect us on a day to day, these kind of were the ones that we plucked out. But I'm sure you guys can think of a lot of different ones.>> Let us know if we missed something that you guys are like, how could you leave that off the list?>> Yeah, we called you guys out last week about getting emails and giving us some ideas and stuff like that. We actually did get several emails this week. Very cool. If I haven't replied to you about the time you hear this, you will get a reply. And that first person who has promised a little something, something, you will get that at some point. I can't tell you why. We still have to get that merge situation figured out. But you will be the first one to get some of this American ride merge for sure. But thank you. And please, like if you're listening now and you haven't, shoot us an email. Let us know what you think of the podcast. Let us know what you think. If you have ideas for other topics for us to talk about, just shoot us an email, man. We would definitely appreciate it and we would definitely reply. And oddly enough, if you're not watching us on YouTube, and I feel like YouTube, this podcast on YouTube is our biggest technical difficulty right now. If you're not watching us on YouTube, I updated the artwork. So the next time you click on this American ride, you will actually, if you don't know myself and Bert, you'll actually see what we look like. And if you're watching on YouTube, you're probably just getting audio because there were some issues on this one.>> Yeah, we'll see.>> We'll see you like him up with camera. Crazy. Hopefully it works out, but if not, listen anyway. This was fun.>> Yeah.>> This was a good time. Listen, thanks for tuning in to this episode of this American ride. And if you're still here, please leave us a rating and a comment on Spotify or Apple or wherever you're consuming your podcast these days. We are on just about everywhere you can imagine. But please leave us a rating if you haven't already leave us a comment and tell your friends how great we are. It's the only way we're going to grow this thing. And if you're listening to us on YouTube and hit that like, hit that subscribe button, ring that bell and subscribe.>> Yeah, subscribe.>> If you're listening elsewhere, still shoot over to YouTube and subscribe, it would really help us out.>> Yeah. Yeah, it's tough. It's tough to grow this kind of content on YouTube right now. So all right, well, I'm George.>> I'm Bert.>> And we'll catch you in the next one later.[BLANK_AUDIO]

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